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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Well, Mr Bearded-Banker is gonna start a "payday Loan" service for businesses.
If we get a few more services provided by the Gov, we can get good advice from Mr Putin and reading Marx and Engle's works.
Oh yes..I know Mr Bearded-bankers outfit is not strictly Gov, but in
practice it is.
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macira
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10/07/08 05:14pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Turkeys certainly can fly!! I nearly got one thru the winhdshield south of Midland Texas one day.
Point of fact Chickens can fly also.
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macira
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10/07/08 11:03am |
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RE: Campground Fistfight in OK
Pipeliners have been fighting since I was a wee lad which was long ago.
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macira
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10/06/08 11:26pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Topflite Me too! In San Antonio, before Walmart "killed the world?" a local Chain out priced all the majors, Safeway, albertson, Kroger etc. Now we have Them and Walmart.
Walmart had no hand in the deal H.E.BUTT stores just had better service and prices and the others gave up.
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macira
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10/06/08 11:03am |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Topflite Rum and 7up Yep You see I am Diabetic and white rum and diet 7up has no carbohydrate so it does not raise my glucose level. Diet coke works ok also.
I would prefer single malt scots whiskey, but prefer to live.
I do indeed have hope and desire, but know for certain that hope and desire(want as they really are) have no effect on outcomes. Actions and thought work, but not hope and desire, and actions have to be accompanied by knowledge and acceptance of the situation at hand.
Someone asked why we older folks describe the situation as dire. It is pretty simple, experience. Remember we have been lied to by politicians of many kinds.
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macira
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10/05/08 08:52pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
LarryGranny1.. I went in at 18 + spent 17 actrive and 15 in the reserve. It was a good choice.
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macira
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10/05/08 06:19pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
TOP You just gotta stop sooner at the 19th Hole. Logic seems to escape you and a few others. Oh well That's not a crime.
I'm in the Desert of Nevada also. At The AVI resort in Laughlin, cool and nice today. Even hada Rum and 7-up, maybe 3. Still don't play Golf, never was hoity-toity enough for that. I'm more of race car guy.
Dumb and Stupid I may be but I have lots of fun, and some folks just make my day.
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macira
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10/05/08 06:17pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Figues don't lie but liars figure. Seems to apply to "mark to Market".
Guess not all homilies are wrong , huh?
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macira
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10/05/08 05:12pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
I applaud both Aridon and Dick A. Gloom and Doom, I think not. Maybe too many at the 19th hole will mask the truth but not for long.
One should also note that the Big 3 in Detroit are begging for alms, auto business can't be too great. I bought a new "Chevy" last year at a deep discount
CIF(cash in Fist) I might add. The dealer had one of anything I wanted or could get it next day, guess they were not flying off the lot. At My age I my never need another.
NO , bot gloom and doom.
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macira
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10/05/08 05:08pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Dick A has said that we have many here with divergent viewpoints and we do. That is no doubt due to each person's situation. If One is retired maybe with some comfort they hold one set of opinions. If one is in business and at least thinks they are doing well their opinions differ. Those who are`working and feel secure in their situation are
different yet again.
And here is the part that causes friction, those who are doing well often declare that those who may not be are negative, etc.
If you have ever studied Physics you may be familiar with relativiy which has some relevance here.
Another human act is to blame those who have problems as the cause of their own problems, out of fear that they too could be in trouble at some point, if they admitted that those who had problems were not guilty.
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macira
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10/05/08 03:41pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Jallen4..The end of your post includes more homilies, which are usually cute but far off base.
Far be it from me to judge Auto deaalerships and farther yet realestate deals but from an amatuers point of view here is how it looks to me.
If a lot of folks have little money I suppose they find it hard to buy cars.
They may well buy them and maybe never pay for them. I'd guess if the dealership sells the note that becomes someone elses problem. IF that is the case then it looks a lot like the home sales that are going down the tube.
And it seems if one looks at the situation today that many real estate "deals" have gone astray, so it may be not so rosy. I'd guess those folks who have homes
foreclosed got "deals".
In San Antonio there are "auto dealers" who own a series of dealership who do indeed employ as many as 2700 people. I'd say "Red" McCombs employs more than that.
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macira
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10/05/08 03:09pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
topflite Point of fact I am doing quite well all things considered for an old guy. But I prefer to look at things with logic, not hope or belief etc. Things for many, some because of their actions, others like the auto dealership folks probably not due to their acts, are not doing so well.
I don't buy the kool-aid that those who are not doing well should go do whatever the "smart folks" do either.
And one judges glasse's fullness or emptyness by looking from the side.
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macira
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10/05/08 01:20pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Topflite51 Point to consider,"a half full glass is indeed as well half empty".
That may be true of that homily also.
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macira
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10/05/08 12:44pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
rstanek..Years back there was something about "two chickens in every garage and a car in every pot" or some such.
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macira
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10/05/08 12:31pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
It is easy to look at the comments and ideas presented here to see who has swallowed the most talking points. I'll leave it at that.
After all the RV world operates without politics, maybe like OZ.
But whereever one gets his/her points, things are not great, looking down the street depends on what street you look down.
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macira
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10/05/08 12:26pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
JALLEN4 has a lot of sayings..and some are "sort of true".
I think we will find the current set of problems to be quite different.
The problems will go deeper and last longer.
Indeed as some have said, "those with good credit can acquire all the money they ask for" and will probably not ask for too much.
The ones in trouble who have fueled the wild ride can't. That is why the wild ride is over. The wild ride provided many jobs and much money to the economy. Those jobs and the money are gone. It will take a long time to create other jobs and rebuild the credit and lives of those who lost.
So I still say the "rose colored glasses" approach is wrong.
I will also add that TKRHLP is "sort of right", where he misses is that prices for US made "shoes" were forced too high by shoemakers demanding much too high of wages. Wages for jobs are only worth the value they add to a process. Customers wanted and want shoes at prices they like not prices dictated by the wants of shoemakers.
Plus I think he will find that much of the "slave labor myth" is fading.
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macira
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10/05/08 08:41am |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
Last week we were at Knotts Berry farm, I thought we were in Nuevo Laredo.
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macira
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10/04/08 10:10pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
D & M..Point of fact I don't watch CNN. No, things will not soon return to "normal". The world won't end but a lot of things will end. The "world" may well come to look financially like the 1950's. There surely will be a surplus of MBAs.
There will be a lot of failed enterprises and the Gov will have $700 bil of "rummage sale" stuff. Then maybe we can start to normalize, 5 to 10 years maybe.
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macira
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10/04/08 09:12pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
D & M I doubt the world will end in the foreseeable future. There will be a lot of parties come to an end. Various would be leaders will come to not be all powerful and folks with plans to fix all the economic problems will fizzle. Indeed things will work out but not as to please at lot of folks.
So better to not look for the "rosy view".
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macira
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10/04/08 03:43pm |
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RE: Doom and Gloom!
I think it HAS been for some years, but that is a lot of our current problem.
Credit was not always so much used and when it was the creditor was required to be much more reliable. At some point when a person or any Business or Government exists entirely on credit there is trouble.
Short term credit such as credit cards paid off monthly are much like credit was years ago, accounts were settled each month. But when accounts such as credit cards became "loans" a much different scenario emerged. Businesse and Governments have come to operate on the minimum payment basis.
And when banks and pseudo banks invented the many swaps, and packages of debts etc they were no longer operating as credit once was, but became purely gamblers.
These "swaps" are just gambles where one entity bets that a debt will be paid and the counter party bets it won't. A problem that exsists is that no one knows what these contracts are worth.
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macira
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10/04/08 01:57pm |
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